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A: Yes there r reports in shias books that ,concept of Ali's wilayat is first introduced by a ibn saba ,and he was the one who started cursing first three caliphs of Islam. I will put the quotes from their books if ifind them. Having established the authority of this historian directly from Shi'ah sources, let's read what al-Nubakhti had to say about Abdullah Ibn Saba': "Abdullah bin Saba', was one of those who slandered Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman and the Companions and disowned them. He claimed that it was Ali [as] who enjoined this on him. Ali arrested him, and upon interrogation, admitted to the charge, and (Ali) ordered him to be executed. The People cried 'O Chief of Believers ! Do you execute a man calling to your love, Ahlul-Bayt, to your allegiance, and disowning your enemies?' He (Ali) then exiled him to al-Mada'in (Capital of Iran back then). Some of the knowledgeable companions of Ali [as] narrated that Abdullah bin Saba' was a Jew who embraced Islam and sided with Ali [as]. That he was of the opinion, at the time when he was a Jew, claiming that Yousha' bin Noon is after Moses. After his submission to Islam, after the demise of the Prophet [pbuh&hf], he claimed the same for Ali [as]. He was the first to publicly mandate the Imamah of Ali [as], disowning his enemies, and debated his opposers. From thence, those who oppose Shi'ism say: The origin of Shi'ism is rooted in Judaism. When Abdullah bin Saba' heard of the demise of Ali while in (his exile at) al-Mada'in, he said to the announcer of the news: 'You are a liar, if you are to bring his head in seventy bags, and brought seventy witnesses testifying to his death, we'll insist that he did not die nor murdered, and (he) shall not die till he rules the globe.'" [Firaq al-Shi'a, pp. 43, 44] Second: Abu Amr bin Abdul Aziz al-Kash-shi: Another well known "Who's Who" critic who also mentioned Abdullah Ibn Saba', and one of the earliest Shi'ite biographist. In the introduction to his book, we read: "He is trustworthy (thiqah), an adept, an expert in traditions and men, very knowledgeable, well founded in faith, on the upright path......The most important books on biographies of men are four, which are heavily depended on and (considered) the four basic pillars in this field, the most important and earliest of all is: Ma'rifat al-Naqileen anil-A'immah As-Sadiqeen (Knowing the Transmittors on The Authority of The Truthful Imams) known as Rijaal al-Kash-shi." [Rijaal al-Kash-shi Introduction.] Having established the authority of this scholar, let's examine what he has to say about this so-called "mythological" Jew, Abdullah Ibn Saba': "Some people of knowledge mentioned that Abdullah bin Saba' was a Jew, who embraced Islam and supported Ali. While he was still a Jew, he used to go to extremism in calling Yousha' bin Noon as the appointee (successor) of Moses, thus after embracing Islam - after the demise of the Messenger of Allah [pbuh&hf] - he said the like about Ali. It was him who first publicly announced the mandatory Imamah for Ali, rejected and disowned his enemies, debated his opponents and called them Kafirs. Hence, those who oppose the Shi'ites often say: The Shi'ites and Rejectors (Rafidah) have their roots in Judaism" [Rijaal al-Kash-shi, p.101; Al-Mamaqaani, author of Tanqeeh al-Maqaal, who is an authoritative Shi'i biogrophist quoted the like in page 184 his said book] Now, if these Shi'ah authorities lied about the identity of Abdullah Ibn Saba', then the possibility of them lying about other matters, like the events of Siffien, the murder of Sayyidina Husayn (Radhi Allahu ta'ala Anhu) and other Shi'i dogmas, stands greater. Consequently, if this is the case, doubt will overshadow any and all events and narrations recorded by them. @ wahabi ... asker is just asking a question ,if dont have an answer ,why u getting personal,and using a language lower than a human.
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